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I'm honestly mourning what we could've had if Jonah had been given a more prominent role in season five. It feels like a waste of a wonderful character who could've added so much charm and thematic depth.

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I'm already mourning what s4 could have been with more Jonah... Remember the completely impact-less Jonah "reveal" because nobody at this point really cared about it, in the story? Imagine what a great source of conflict this could have been if Jon had built up a (maybe relatable to him?) version of Jonah in his head that he now had to reconcile with the Elias he knew

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The worst part of the 'Jonah Magnus is a metaphor for fascism' post from 2020 is that one of the bullet points was 'Creates an us vs. them dynamic between the Eye and the other Fears'. Girlie, the man himself is the first on tape to put forth that the Fears' taxonomy is a flawed classification because they cannot be separated from each other.

I'm sorry but any scenario where OG Elias isn't either dead since the moment Jonah started using his body or at least with his consciousness shut down will never be convincing or interesting to me. Do you really think thee control freak would endure sharing a life and a body with another consciousness? He would have found a way to squash that twink like a bug.

I remember seeing a crazy take that claimed Jonah doesn't understand himself + by extension the world because he watches instead of seeing (contrasted with Jon/Martin, which is not a pair you want to put as an example of mutual understanding, IMO) and is too alone to have another person to see himself in. And, like, I have talked about the possibility of him having a fucked sense of identity, what with the body-hopping, the immortality, and the shaping of his life around a singular goal, but the post was weirdly judgemental about it. As if people who can't connect with others suddenly weren't human.

But also, leaving aside my feelings on the matter, it's canonically untrue. Jonah literally understands people; otherwise, he wouldn't be able to manipulate and coerce them. Even if you chalk that up to the Beholding, he still views people as people; he and Gertrude respected each other enough to not use their powers on each other, and he clearly takes pleasure in guiding Jon through his becoming.

It just feels like it's placing a moral or, god forbid, humanising weight on loving and being loved, as if the point where Jonah went wrong (as in #cringefailed) was when he failed to connect with others. And I guess MAG 159 does lend itself to the "love saves you always" interpretation if you're looking for it.

"Ooh, Jonah isn't human because he's so cold and isolated." Many people you talk to every day are cold and isolated. OP. What does human even mean? He still bleeds, he can still die, and his will is still his own, mostly.

Thinking about Jon and Elias hunting together in the most brutal, synchronised, and methodical fashion possible 🥰🥰🥰

Theories about OG Elias having any kind of agency over Jonah's actions are so dumb to me, especially considering how often he emphasises that he does things because he wishes to. If he had another consciousness in his body battling for control, it would be relevant to his character. It wouldn't be a tee-hee offscreen thing.

Truly burned out on L*nelyeyes for good.

Jonah not allowing himself to be compelled (and making his account of his motivations and anxieties so dry compared to how he talked about Jon's own terrors) can easily be read as him refusing the Eye the opportunity to feast on his fear. But I think that the Eye is probably feeding on his fear and refusal of being fed on by the Eye. It's awfully elegant.

I genuinely forget Elias is evil sometimes; like, I don't forget he's a murderer, but it's so far from my mind to do a moral reading of his actions that it's a shock to remember people don't sympathise with him. "He ended the world." Yeah, and? He was coping.

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